Posts by Little Imp

Later on I was told all sorts by my JW friends. The most cutting remark was being told that my actions showed that 'I didn't love my kids.' My kds are my life. How could anyone say this? An act of desperation on their part? Maybe. But deeply insulting.

In my book this is the last thing a Christian would say to you.

Your story has reminded me of how awful it all was. It's great hearing how someone else has managed to get away though.

LI

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Has anyone ever had a 'Near Death Experience' ?

by 3Mozzies in

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i'm wondering if anyone here has had a "near death experience" or know of someone that has.

as an example: such as floating above your body during your operation when the doctors 'lose' you and you make a decision to return back to your body even though the bright light and some voice tell you otherwise... .

did it change you/them in anyway?.

Little Imp

I thought I did but it was probably the effects of the morphine.

In 2001 I had hip surgery and had requested no blood transfusion. My mum had come to visit and I remember looking at my hands and they were as white as the sheets on my bed. My sister-in-law arrived and I could hear the two of them talking but it was if I was floating off somewhere but then this big black woman wearing brightly coloured clothes was waving her finger at me and saying "it wasn't time yet". She was very jolly and was chuckling as she spoke to me.

I floated back down and began to feel as though I was in the room again as blood started to be transfused.

As I say having thought about it since it was probably the morphine causing me to hallucinate.

LI

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Jehovahs Witness Spouses

by Spade in

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i seriously doubt there's anyone with a spouse that's a jehovah's witness here.

but if so, how do you absorb all the hateful rhetoric disseminated here without spitting it back in your spouses face?.

Little Imp

My husband was a JW when we met and married. However, I am happy to say that we have now not been to a KH for two years this month.

He never really wanted to be one anyway it was pressure from his mother so he was never pushy about anything and did not go out on FS or hand in a report.

We have had to move house though to put it all behind us.

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do the jw'swant you to not associate non jw's

by not a jw in

my wife became a witness a few yrs after we had gotten married and i was wondering if the jw's believe that they should not socialize with people who are not jw's?i had some neighbors when i was younger and their kids who were close to my age said that that was their beliefs being witnesses.i ask my wife that and she says that isnt true.does it differ from congregation to congregation or is someone trying to cover up something?

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Little Imp

My husband was brought up in the faith. Neither him or his brother were allowed to go to grammar school or stay on at school past 16.

In those days it was easier to find work without qualifications which my husband did. However,at the age of 25 he saw an opening for a trainee broadcast engineer and applied. He was accepted but the job was in London whereas he thought it would have been in Birmingham where he lived. However, because 1975 had been and gone his mother encouraged him to take the job.

This meant moving over 100 miles from his parents which he said was the best thing that happened to him. The job involved a lot of training and he gained good qualifications so it meant he had a reasonable life. However, he is very bright and could have done so much better but he is luckier than many.

His brother moved out in his teens took enough exams to get him to university and went. However, the relationship between him and his parents broke down for several years over this.

Ironically though, their mother in her 50s went away to university and lived on campus!

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How Eco-Friendly is the Watchtower?

by donuthole in

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i have plenty of anecdotal evidence of witnesses going through life with the attitude of "we'll just clean it up in the paradise.

" i wondered if this kind of attitude was manifest in the bethel homes and factories.

is recycling something that the watchtower engages in at its facilities?

Little Imp

I have always thought that the publications should be printed on recycled paper. When I asked they said recycled paper was more expensive.

Surely, as the bible is clear on the fact that God will bring to ruination those who ruin the earth this is against bible principles. They certainly make enough money to use recycled paper and they should lead by example.

However, I too, have heard that when questioned along the lines of something like this they just reply "God will sort it out in the New World". What a get out.

LI

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My mom to my daughter: "BD party might be fun but it will make Jah sad"

by SweetBabyCheezits in

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we've allow a little freedom for my jw mom to visit our daughter at lunch at the school since we're df'd now.

um, because we're idiots, maybe.

so my daughter tells me this evening that she was chatting with mom at lunch today and mentioned a birthday party she's attending this weekend.

Little Imp

I cannot believe that an adult would say such a thing to a child. IMO everyone is entitled to their own opinion on any subject but if anyone has anything to say it should be said to the parents, not children.

However, if my husband had had children I am certain that his mother would say the same thing.

LI

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Did you Fade Gradually or Stop Attending Meetings Quickly ? Reasons ?

by flipper in

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been thinking about this and curious about what makes us all come to the decisions we came to in our fade/exiting the jw organization.. i think for myself having been born-in & raised a jw my doubts about the generation doctrine had simmered for years within me quietly and by the time i finally left in 2003 i had reached my breaking point.

also seeing unjust treatment of rank & file witness ( myself included ) just propelled me into my decision even quicker.

so - one day after meeting with 3 elders in a back room before a meeting and seeing their judgmental aggression towards me - i just told myself " enough is enough ".

Little Imp

Iaaaccaustin

Just checked with hubby again. He said he did nothing to be reinstated.

On one of his mother's visits to his home she wanted him to take her to the meeting which he did. She got talking to an Elder and told him that her son wanted to be reinstated. The elder involved then told him that he would be reinstated.

He said he never attended any meetings or such like as you describe.

I wonder whether it was because it was such a long time after he was disfellowshipped? Also, the Elder rang the Elders at the congregation where he was disfellowshipped who confirmed that he hadn't really done anything to be disfellowshipped for.

It is a strange story. However, feel free to ask any other questions as I will ask him and get back to you.

He has registered on this site and intends to tell his story one day. He has called himself "Leper" for obvious reasons. He is busy renovating our new home at the moment!

LI

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Did you Fade Gradually or Stop Attending Meetings Quickly ? Reasons ?

by flipper in

jw
friends

been thinking about this and curious about what makes us all come to the decisions we came to in our fade/exiting the jw organization.. i think for myself having been born-in & raised a jw my doubts about the generation doctrine had simmered for years within me quietly and by the time i finally left in 2003 i had reached my breaking point.

also seeing unjust treatment of rank & file witness ( myself included ) just propelled me into my decision even quicker.

so - one day after meeting with 3 elders in a back room before a meeting and seeing their judgmental aggression towards me - i just told myself " enough is enough ".

Little Imp

Outlaw, well done, keep it simple, keep it quick. Did you not have any problems with family or friends?

LI

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Did you Fade Gradually or Stop Attending Meetings Quickly ? Reasons ?

by flipper in

jw
friends

been thinking about this and curious about what makes us all come to the decisions we came to in our fade/exiting the jw organization.. i think for myself having been born-in & raised a jw my doubts about the generation doctrine had simmered for years within me quietly and by the time i finally left in 2003 i had reached my breaking point.

also seeing unjust treatment of rank & file witness ( myself included ) just propelled me into my decision even quicker.

so - one day after meeting with 3 elders in a back room before a meeting and seeing their judgmental aggression towards me - i just told myself " enough is enough ".

Little Imp

When I met my husband he was 45 years of age and had been disfellowshipped around the age of 15. He left home aged 25 and moved over 100 miles away from his parents.

However, his mother used to sometimes visit and interfered and got him reinstated very much against his wishes. Therefore, when I met he was attending the KH and the Group Study as much as his shift work allowed. He had gone out on FS occasionally but never handed in a report.

When he met me his mother warned him off because I was not a JW however he stuck to his guns and said he didnt want to be alone anymore. I started attending the KH with him in 2003 prior to our marriage in March 2004. At first I was very interested but quickly saw the flaws in what they preached and taught. It was during these conversations that my husband said that he had never wanted to be reinstated in the first place.

We kept attending the meetings as his shifts allowed to keep his mother happy. His parents are quite demanding in us visiting them so we began only visiting on a Sunday which meant us and them missing meetings. Although husband was off during the week I was at work and Saturday traffic where we used to live and where they live was horrendous hence the Sunday visit. This was the beginnning of our fade. Another factor was that the Elder from our book study group said we had to attend another Group. This was further away and my husband said we had no chance of getting there by 7.30pm as the traffic where we used to live at the time of day was impossible so we never attended the new Group. Therefore our old group thought we have moved groups the new group never missed us as we never started going there. This was the start of our fade.

In 2007 I had to give up work and I had surgery in April 2007 which meant I couldn't attend meetings at all for six weeks and wasn't to be left alone in the house. As we didn't live near any family and friends this meant my husband couldn't attend meetings either. We resumed going to meetings following the six weeks on our usual sporadic basis.

Our KH has three meetings each Sunday which they rotate so each congregation gets two years at the same time. We had 10 o'clock, 1pm and 4pm meetings. We were going at 10 a.m. in 2007 but in January 2009 when our congregation was moved to 1pm we continued to go at 10 0'clock as this suited us better regarding family sometimes coming over on a Sunday for a roast.

Therefore, if we saw anyone or someone from our group phoned to see where we were we were able to say that we went to a different meeting. Our congregation was very small but the one we went to instead always had a full hall so it was unlikely whether we were noticed there or not if the Elders from our congregation asked those Elders. Eventually we stopped attending, I think the last meeting we went to was November 2008.

However, sometime last year an elderly lady from the congregation kept calling on us.

I hardly every answered the door as we never had surprise visitors so unless I was expecting a parcel I used to ignore the door and sometimes saw JWs doing their normal FS most of whom probably didn't know which house in the Close was ours. However, this old lady used to often call around 8.45 a.m, when our blinds and curtains were still shut and she knew full well my husband worked shifts. It was every two to three weeks or so.

However, we moved out of our house in February this year but had reason to go back prior to the new people moving in and I found a tract that she had put through the door. My husband said there was some significance in the fact that she had written "Mr & Mrs Little Imp" rather then our first names in the note she wrote on it.

We are dying to know whether she has worked it out that we have moved yet or not since she only came round on weekdays and the new people would always be at work then. The only other way she may know is if MIL has told an Elders wife she befriended in that congregation who would have to tell her husband who may mention it to this old lady. This particular Elder's wife never goes to meetings.

Sorry this is long winded but this is how it happened.

LI